Looking to sell my wifes 89 CB1 (ex Stuart Pilkington) 400, she raced in the SOAR Formula Femme series. Will consider trades. (dirtbike, pitbike) 1700 OBO Thanks Paul.
just wondering what class this would be in for vrra…
Period 4 formula 3 possibly others.
If it still has the under tail exhaust,they would have to go before it would be VRRA legal.
Brad
No one had a welder in '89 
Apparently not. 
Honda’s FWS1000 from 1982, first V4 on the track, one pipe under tail and one right side. The NR was likely the first street bike to run under tail exhaust.
GP two strokes were doing it for years prior to the FWS
Hey Jim,I was just trying to give him a heads up.These are the rules.If you want to change
them you know the process.
Brad
I am familiar with the process Brad.
Changing the mid pipe and can location is an easy mod, I personally don’t think it is necessary. There are lots of examples mixed models in the club, crossing a 2 stroke frame and body with a 4 stroke engine is entirely reasonable. The exhaust can go where it fits, my 2 cents.
Jim
Apparently the exhaust has to be changed to be legal, but I think the price reflects that, I did say OBO.
This post will probably get me in hot water but… 
Isn’t this bike’s high pipe only a problem if one of it’s competitors files a protest? No under-seat exhausts is definately in the rule book, but does that preclude it not getting on the grid, or only make it a target for protests should someone find the need to do so? Seems more like a valid question now that I’ve written it out… 
This particular bike has a history as being denied eligibility to race at an event several years ago. I doubt it would slip under the radar..especially after this thread..
Despite what some may believe…the executive does read the Forum…
Rick
“Despite what some may believe” I had more faith in the current executive!
pm sent
I hope all this attention helps to sell it. P.S it can go back to street legal.
Problem was with eligibility. Since eligibility forms have been sacked, I don’t see why this couldn’t be raced. I would not hesitate to sign it up for a race.
Francois, Eligibility forms, or lack thereof, have nothing to do with whether a bike has to meet the requirements of our rules to be considered legal. Every year, when you complete the membership renewal form, everyone signs the following statement (bold by me):
I hereby apply for annual membership in the Vintage Road Racing Association (VRRA) and agree to abide by its rules and regulations and fully recognize that motorcycle racing is a dangerous activity and that I will not hold the VRRA responsible for injury or death, however caused.
The relevant section of the Period 4 rules state (again, bold by me):
7f. EXHAUSTS: Must be of a racing style in use during the period. Stainless steel systems allowed. Titanium, carbon fibre and aluminum allowed for “cans” and silencers only. No under seat exiting exhausts on four strokes.
So it has nothing to do with whether we continue to use eligibility forms or, to answer Ashton, whether a bike is considered legal until someone protests it.
Stan
…and there you have it. The gods have spoken. That settles that.
Stan, I see blatant violations of the rules everytime I take a walk through the paddock, yet these bikes end up racing on track with the VRRA anyways. My point is, we do have rules, but if there is no enforcement, which in this case would only occur only if another member filed a protest and therefore is highly unlikely, then this problem is moot and it shouldn’t be used to deter a member from racing with the Club.
I have high respect for Stan and his contribution to the Club, but his post in the present topic is not to be interpreted as an official VRRA ruling and neither is mine, of course. We are just debating the possibility of this bike being on track at a VRRA event, and I still believe it could be possible.
I could see someone protesting if the bike had an illegal modification that had a serious impact on performance but in the case of an underseat exhaust, I’m quite sure nobody in P4F3 will raise that issue.
BTW, I do not encourage people to have bikes that are not in conformity with the rules and my bike was always rigorously conform.
There does not have to be a protest against a non conforming bike by another member.
Tec can refuse entery to any bike that does not conform.
If you see bike out there that does not conform,it is your duty to point it out or everybody will follow suit
& it will become a free for all.In the spirit of good sportmanship we should be trying to preserve the rules not try to sneek an advantage of any sort.If you beleive a rule to be unfair, we have a process to apply for a change.I think that we along with tec should crack down on some of these bikes so we can all have a level playing field.Just my thoughts.
Brad