P4 Vintage Challenge Series 2012

[racerdude413]

@brian-d #43

So let’s say, hypothetically speaking, that some slug (like that guy on bike # 43) decides that, because of how the weekend races are scheduled, rather than bump across within his period, he will sign his P1-250 up for the Vintage Challenge race. He’s out there with P4-F1’s? And this will be ok with the P4 riders? I hate to be a stick in the mud, but I STILL think a Vintage Challenge race should be limited to P4 bikes. After all, P3 bikes can bump up to P4 races as well as within their own period. Why not let the P4 boys have a race of their own?

My 2 cents (CDN),

Brian D. #43

I dont think you would do that, but personnaly i wouldnt care…

The point is: If a P3 rider or P2 rider was looking for more than 4 races weekends to do in 2012, and he decided he was going to do all vintage challenge races at RACE rounds, it would suck for him to be able to get points at those 3 races and not being able to enter the P4 challenge at VRRA events an get points there as well…

[gary_holden]

@Jim Kots

Not to side track too far but if you build a P3H bike with the intension of only racing in P4F1 it needs to be built to P3H specs entirely.

Why?Wouldn’t a P3H bike built to P3H specs entirely be ineligible to “enter” P4F1 because of the displacement limits in P4?
It would be allowed to “bump” into P4F1,and for that it would have to be P3H legal.
Nothing to stop someone from building a P3 “Frankenbike” that respects both P3 and P4 rules and “entering” P4F1,or any P4 class,for that matter.
“2b. Any machine may enter any class for which it meets the eligibility rules.” - isn’t that what this means?

[jim_kots]

A P3H bike built to P3 specs can bump to P4F1 or enter as its primary class. If you enter as your primary class the bike can not be built with modifications considered P4, slicks, 5.0 or wider"rear rim, cartridge forks…

My guess is its the displacement, 1100cc 4 stroke or 750cc 2 stroke, both over the limit.

[Don_Gosen]

To answer Chris’s question, it would appear that the 3 RACE rounds that are friendliest to the VRRA schedule would be; Round 1, May4,5,6, Round 4; Aug. 3,4,5, and Round 6 - Sept. 21,22,23

In each case it would avoid racing back to back weekends. To ensure that the series matches up to VRRA it would seem that calling it the P4 Vintage Challenge would be most logical. Bumping would be allowed per usual VRRA guidelines. For this to be a 7 race series we would then need to run a P4 Challenge at all 4 VRRA rounds including Mosport.

A series sponsor would be a big help towards making this a reality, even if it was only to pick up the awards.

I like the idea because it gives us another chance to work with Chris, promote VRRA, and possibly attract additional P4 riders and members.

Don